Stakes, Spoils, and Post-Match Punishment

For those who are curious, might want to watch this:

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph597905fba61c7

I envy the guy getting banged.

Very punishing pin

Dammmmmmmmn,,that was an ego fueled ass fuck for sure. I wonder how the loser was feeling afterwards.

Indeed, very hot, wouldn't mind a match like that, myself haha!

I was in your situation recently Iowa. I have been avoiding wrestling for top since I signed up. It was a big step for me to wrestle for head as well but the struggle and knowing the stakes was a big turn on for me. I finally agreed to a wrestle for top match recently and won it. The guy was married like me and looked very nervous. I let him out of it. I agreed to another match with another guy and he kicked my butt. He wasn't as generous as I was and I received for the first time. Will I wrestle for top again? Although I did not like it, yes I will. It adds an excitement to the struggle. That struggle for dominance is the turn on for me.

Do you ever get to Chicago or South Florida?

Chicago for business.

Nice. I have a home in Chicago with a large mat area and am thrte from Mid May to end of Sep.

Chicago here and will happily take on all cummers.

I agree it is about the struggle. I think if you agree to certain stakes you should follow through but the winner should understand and accept it if the loser backs out.

Hear hear. And you can always negotiate an alternative stake...

You bring up a good point. I have done stakes fights that were not for top.

Yeah I was reading in the chat room some of the guys doing surrendering of your gear to the winner and they can keep it as a trophy as one idea.

Or sometimes our friends down below just aren't cooperating anyway so you have to improvise...

Very good point. As much as I hate to lose, I will accept our agreement.

I agree with the other comments. Most guys are good and respect their opponents and people do tend to scale back their intensity level once underway. Having stakes can help to guarantee the fight is sufficiently tough. Myself I love having a small audience for both or do round robin etc.

Looking for advice from others who agreed on stakes including being fucked and seeded for the first time. As a virgin to this,I'm wondering if you regretted your decision if you lost to your opponent? Did the victor go easy on you,or pound you for his pleasure only,even ignoring you if you felt it was a mistake and you decided you couldn't take it. If he fucked you and shot his load anyway,did that end your stakes fighting for the future? Would you recommend others be present during the match, possibly for a sense of moral support?

I very recently had an experience with this that definitely pertains to what you're asking.

I'd backed out of stakes last-minute twice before, but finally got the guts to go all out, thinking I would win. I was knocked out in the 4th round of the boxing match, which you would think would be the most hellish moment of the fight. It was not.

In fairness, I had 100% agreed to all of this, and we even agreed on a safeword. But in the heat of the moment, not to mention having gotten my head rocked by so many punches, it didn't even occur to me to say it.

By the end of couple hours, I had been facefucked twice and forced to swallow, and then had my ass fucked for what seemed like forever. It was all about him, and he pounded me with his cock even harder than with his gloves. Every time I got thrown into a new position and penetrated, it was completely soul shattering. By the end, I was in tears, begging him to cum so it would end. Once he came in my ass, the punishment finally ended. My opponent stayed "in character" the whole time I was getting dressed and packing up, talking shit the whole time about knocking me out and fucking me, and how it would be even worse if I ever got in the ring with him again. On the 2 hour drive home, I felt beyond broken.

Yet in retrospect... somehow it's still kinda hot. I honestly don't know if I would ever do it again. He's asked for a rematch, and I'm torn at the idea, knowing if I even want to attempt it, I've got a lot of training to do.

Sometimes, I feel like this is an impossible fetish to understand, even for those of us experiencing it.

@SpeedoBoxerKO you bring up a great point that I believe others, especially those who have never had a stakes fight, should understand.

In the moment of lost with the winner taking you I am usually not turned on because it is all about the winner doing what he wants. It is when I look back on the fight and the stakes that turn me on and gets me off, but while I am going through it, not so much.

My take is that you must be careful to first make sure there's the right chemistry for this, but moreover to be specific about the stakes ahead of time. If your ass on the line, then that also wouldn't also always mean face fuck prelude for example. Also, discuss whether the actual act can be rough or not. In my book even the loser should be able to control the intensity of the act. The sport should be for fun, unless both parties ahead of time have agreed to an everything goes scenario. Communication about expectations would avoid these problems.

Very much agree with these points !

Having discussed and agreed to the terms ahead of the match should be done. Both agree to those terms and don't take if further. I personally prefer oral for stakes. I find it more humiliating to have to towel off the winners seed. Just my thoughts.

Harrier, we need a rematch

Cum back for a visit.

Fully concur, well put.

Wow, that's quite a rough way to get initiated into this... I am not sure I would have been OK with this, especially without condoms (it reads like it might have been bareback?).

I think if you aren't sure about this, you might want to take more time to reflect on the scenario and whether you're ready for it again. There's no shame in doing that, after all this should be a fun experience for the both of you...

Have had a few stakes matches myself. I find they add an intensity to the match. But know you limits. If this is just a fantasy for you let your opponent know upfront. I find t truly unfair to put my ass on the line in a fight win, then other dude backs out. It is like not paying off on a sports bet.

"Like backing out on a sports bet" Good point,,,very well said. That's a great analogy. It drives home the very issue,,I guess no matter how big of a regret you have about your initial agreement, Big Chicago's comment says it all,,take it like a man

To be clear, I was saying the loser should still do it, but it is there choice if they want to back out. Should do it and has to do it are two very different things.

Also, I will say that a big red flag for me is when a guy asks, after agreeing something is off the table, "are you going to make me do it anyway?" If somebody says that, then it indicates the rules/limits you are agreeing to are not going to be respected by him.

Also that why it is best not to have an audience, especially if it is your first time. Most times It is a pretty brutal experience.

Good to see this topic get some solid feedback. It seems a popular item on the boards but .more as a fantasy. Its been sobering reading reactions when a guy realises he is going to be taken for real and thats its very much him being used by the winner not a mutual sex thing. Thanks to those who have been honest to state thier exp whether they won or lost. Certainly if its an agreed stake and the winner decides to take it then it should be a bet paid.

Curious what you guys think about the other way around? Meaning, the winner can't "consummate" his win, is that OK then?

The winner should get the choice.. The prize is for him to take or not.

I would say the winner can have it his way. If he decides not to ,,that would be up to him,,or her. The winner is,,,,well,,,THE WINNER. They have already beat you,so,they are the better man,,or woman ,right?

Works for me :D - then I feel less bad lol

Well first of all, regardless of what you agree too, you can still say no. It might be a shitty thing to do (I say even if you don't want to you should take it like a man), but you can say no at any time. In my experience, people in victory might be rough or bragging, but they are still good people.

Totally agree with this, in the end same as anything else, no means no, and it's absolutely okay to think you want something and once put in the situation you realise it really isn't. I personally think if you're uncomfortable with the idea or have second-thoughts then maybe having an audience might not be the best idea for the first time. I would, however, think carefully about your opponent in that case to make sure it's someone who understands the first-time nature of the encounter and will help you to find your boundaries at a pace that's comfortable for you.

Good post, kimmetje. Another option is have a safe word if no and begging are part of the fun.

One word of caution that stems from my match: We had agreed upon and setup a safeword beforehand. I got the shit beat out of me in rounds 3 and 4 before the KO, and really had my head rocked. Between the punches, the exhaustion from being facefucked and the fear of being fucked, my head was too hazy to even recall the safeword, let alone scream it out. The whole time I was being fucked, I was begging and pleading him to stop, but never found the safeword through my mental haze. One word could have ended the torture, but it was as though his punches had beaten it out of me.

yes, excellent alternative. Thanks for adding that as an option!

Good questions Iowa. I'm curious to see what kind of responses you get. You aren't the only one curious about post stakes match remorse.