I am closing this forum thread now because it is not contributing anything to meeting fighters. I was going to write a short comment about my thoughts and ask everyone to just move on, but instead here's a message from the original founder of MeetFighters:
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I never editorialized much, but I thought there's a time for everything (except for incest and folk dance). Those who know who I am can skip this paragraph. Those who do not can also skip it, it is just personal stuff. The story goes like this. I was a member of Headlock wrestling, which was a pretty OK personals site. Then Headlock was acquired by GlobalFight at some point, so I became a member there. (Still am, but not using it much anymore.) The problem was that GlobalFight did not serve the same purpose as Headlock: Headlock was purely a personals site while GlobalFight was a wrestling porn site with some personals features hacked on as an afterthought to sell more wrestling porn. So my needs for a real fighting personals site were no longer fulfilled.
At some point in late 2008 I was in the GlobalFight chatroom. Someone was trolling and I politely asked the guy to stop, and was promptly suspended for my trouble. At the same time I was running a tiny site for organizing wrestling meets in my home city. It was really a minor thing, but it had profiles and forums in it. So on the day following my temporary banishment from GlobalFight I came to the realization that if I want a fighting site that is halfway good, I might have to make one myself. I had the basic building blocks. So I set out, registered the allfighters.info domain and threw it out there for the world to see. The rest is history, now the same site, under the new Admin's stewardship, is the largest wrestling personals site out there. And yes, I'm proud. :) While I am no longer directly involved in the administration of the site, I am very happy to have started it and enjoy using it every day.
The thing to understand is that I did not make AllFighters in anger. It was never "against" GlobalFight, or any other site. (If there was anything against GlobalFight, it was Globalfight itself with misanthropic policies.) AllFighters was for something, most specifically me, and anybody else who wanted the same kind of thing. This is why I am asking everyone, including Mr GlobalFight here: let go of your anger. We now have a site that caters very specifically to those who are interested in fighting. Use it, enjoy it, and let this site be for that and nothing else, and let GlobalFight continue to cater for whatever they wan. Let MeetFighters be about MeetFighters, GlobalFight be about GlobalFight and put everything else behind us.
Thank you for reading, I promise this will be the last time I get involved.
I think Mr Globalfight has never heard about the Streisand effect.
In his desperately poor effort to clear his abysmal site's name, he has once again propelled "Globalfight is terrible" to the top of the forum pile. :D
tl;dr - That site's layout and performance is something out of the 90s. It makes MySpace look well designed. It's 2016 now.
At least one person needs to be a paying premium member for two people to exchange messages to arrange a wrestle.
Administration of that site has been ambiguous, contradictory & poor with profiles + the chat room for years that it's been an established reputation for some time.
And most importantly, the site is really just an elaborate advertisement banner for the parent domain's gay porn video sales.
Once again someone posting lies who either has never used site or been banned for being a jackass and now seeking to attack us from outside sources.
EVERYONE has two free emails a day.
And the site design intentionally uses basic HTML on the front end so ALL users can access as with so many fragmented programs being used these days if one gets glitched such as adobe acrobat or any of the other auto update programs MANY TIMES they cause an error till the programers get the bugs worked out so by using a simple HTML background our users do not experience those glitches.
Also, to think we do not keep up is ridiculous all you have to do is enter our members area to see 40,000 video shows and one million images via the most advanced display system in the world to see otherwise. We were attending internext conventions and hashing out new html website systems before many of MF or GF users were even BORN so give me a break about knowing how to build a website :)
2 free emails a day is still stupid. Messaging should be unlimited. If not unlimited I should still be able to hold a full conversation with someone. Two messages a day is absolutely retarded.
google? a billion dollar business ? yea, that might be a little reason they have free email. They also ban folks in an instant just like every other big company for posting snide remarks about their service without going through customer support. By the way we have live phone support has for years
Please do not make assertions about persons you do not know.
Please don't make ridiculous claims about your own website that are patently untrue or incorrect.
First it was "we have the most advanced feature in the world" and then it was "it's not fair to compare us to a billion dollar company". Please cease with your mental gymnastics.
You should just quit while you're behind. Before you just looked bad, but now after a string of these ridiculous comments, you look worse.
Many of your (former) users have ceased using your portal because it's been awful for quite some time. Deal with it by trying to improve your service, instead of being the one making snide comments on the internet and implying that anyone who criticises you or your website has some sort of axe to grind, when really we're just pointing out the bridge is falling down and you're wearing a blindfold.
LOL, you have to love watching Global come over here and pitch tantrums because he can't prevent people from speaking the truth about the BS that goes on over there. Like a self-entitled diva, he keeps showing up here, raging against anyone who dares to comment on the unsavory practices of GlobalFight. Honestly, the fact that he's even being allowed to MENTION his site here is proof that the operators of Meetfighters are above the sort of arbitrary and childish behavior that has chased so many away from his site. (And believe me, a LOT more people have left that site because they became fed up with the shady practices than have been banned. I darn sure wasn't banned - I just got tired of paying and paying for the profiles and messaging - which is done better here for FREE.) Meet fighters is the site we all wished we had when we were basically forced to put up with Global's shenanigans (and pay his price) because he was the only game in town. Now that Meetfighters is here, the only reason anyone would still be using Global is out of inertia. Anyone looking at the number of profiles can see that there's a migration occurring, and it's definitely NOT in the direction of Globalfight.
Global needs to drop its bait-and-switch pretenses of being a site interested in providing a platform for the wrestling community, and come out of the closet as the PORN SITE it really is. Global is never going to improve its service, because that is NOT its goal: It's a porn site, and it's going to keep milking that cash cow. Wrestlers posting profiles are just the unrewarded and unappreciated bait they use to lure guys with a wrestling interest to their site so they can market the porn.
Hey, let's not waste time, energy and bandwith talking down another site, but let's talk up one that we do have and use.
If you don't like a service and its terms, conditions and behaviour, there are always alternative services ... don't like one site, use another and forget it.
I like -this- site, Meetfighters. I like the Admin here, never met them, but there's a streak of humour in their messages and fairness that I like. Passion too.
So let's not slag off an alternative site (Don't put Admin in an awkward position- unless it's on a mat or wrestling ring) - Enjoy what you have and like, ignore and don't use and dont bitch about what you don't - and just wrestle.
Hephaestion, I didn't begin this dialogue. Look at "globalfight"'s comments. My comments were a response to his audacity in using THIS site to basically promote HIS site. If I have an honest response to that, and can truthfully relate pertinent facts related to his comments, I don't feel like I'm the one who should be squelched. The drastically better administration and layout of this site are why I'm here. And to be clear, I am NOT, in any way, over at Globalfight using the site, making negative comments or anything else. I would never have uttered a word about Globalfight if he had not come here and spouted a pack of untruths in order to promote his site. Come now... you can't seriously tell me you approve of his using this site to promote his own site and argue its merits, can you? Are you sure I'm the one whose comments you object to? Take a closer look at the timelines here and who said what in what order.
Sorry HMB, I am not USING it I am RESPONDING to some idiots posting slanderous lies about our site (the ones who have been banned for being pricks to other members in chat) and one MUST respond or others might start thinking the lies to be true if an alternate point is not explained. I would much rather the admin just remove these moronic statements and threads but if not they must be countered.
Wasn't aimed at just you hence why my reply wasn't in response to yours. More than just one person and thread in this area of discussion.
I do think there are parts of "globalfights" defence where it feels more like promotion. But hey ... that's not my call to make, I'm just a user of the site.
I'm not saying you shouldn't say these things or be squelched. Air grievances, moan and respond all you like ... but sometimes oftentimes getting angry about things does nothing but make the person who chooses to be angry stay angry and waste a lot of energy.
So what's the best feature of meetfighters for you? For me it's the past opponents and recommendations so you can feel a bit safer and be a bit better informed when entering into a match. I guess the abuse and negative options too as it can prevent people wasting others time, or if they do something dangerous.
@hepaestion2014: What´s the best feature of meetfighters?
For me it´s the many flags you can set on your profile and look out for on other profiles, especially "Have access to mats".
And that´s just one of the unique selling points that make meetfighters excel every other site I´ve come to know.
Let me point out a few things to set the record straight. First off, many of the bashings towards globalfight come from people who were banned for GOOD REASON and meetfighters has and will in long run ban many of them for same reasons as they are disruptive to any site they use. They are just bad apples.
As for being money hungry the first three years globalfight started we were FREE but as meetfighters has learned the internet is not free, we and them have to pay HUGE amounts of bandwidth for every 100 people using the site. As usage increases you have to pay MONEY to internet providers BUY more equipment etc and thus membership prices go up the more people use it. That is dictated by powers outside our control.
We too provide TWO FREE contacts each day as meetfighters do. This is fair but to think EVERYTHING should be free is not realistic. Even MF charges a nominal fee the more you want to contact people in a day. Keep in mind GF has tons of porn shows and video shows in a multimedia area which is part of the membership and this is NOT something we wanted but rather things members have ASKED for over the years which we provided and which also increased bandwidth usage on the site. Again, we each provide something to the community different flavors. We are both nearly identical in terms of operational features, what sets us apart is membership interest and location.
As far as bad layout... well again that comes down to different type of people using the site because we have laid out the site AS PEOPLE HAVE ASKED it to be laid out. We respond to membership requests and comments to make the site easier just as MF does. I mean hell, you want to go into every restaurant have the SAME look and feel and taste in each one? makes no sense. Also keep in mind GF has a FULL TIME manned PHONE line for customer support... you wont find that with hardly ANY site on the net except the multi-million dollar sites so to bash for no customer service just makes no sense at all. True, we cannot make everyone happy all the time neither can MF or any other site but try bashing or saying anything out of line on ebay, flickr etc and see how quick you will get banned by them.
Admin, I would like to thank you for the kind comments you posted trying to point out some of the counter points to a few of their comments . Per your comment about if we had a thread section yes we do have a forum and if someone did post a Why We Hate Meetfighters we would not allow it. Not because were censoring free speech but because it brings BOTH our sites down, does NOT provide any real benefit or growth (if someone has a beef about a site they should contact the admin with suggestions) and fosters more negativity then good will. You can go into the happiest place on earth where everyone is having a great time and find SOMETHING to start complaining about and other people around you will start looking for the bad instead of the good to bitch about as well.
If you have a suggestion for GF then send it to the admins and it will be considered, but dont expect every site on the internet to make your changes... keep in mind many other folks are wanting changes that might be contrary to your request. Like MF we respond to the majority. MF and GF will never be identical that would just be pointless and ridiculous so stop bitching about one being laid out better than the other, if they were identical you would be bitching about THAT :) Now stop whining and spend that time finding a match.
I am frankly shocked and a little outraged that "Globalfight" either as a website, or an individual representing such, has the gall to come to Meetfighters and attempt to defend its many outrageous practices. Here is truth: Despite their claims Globalfight does disrupt and prevent messaging between non-paid members. To my knowledge, and in my experience, no message between non-paying members goes through. Aside from that, there is the fact that Globalfight has experienced a greed propelled "mission creep", such that it attempts now to be a source of streaming porn, various other fetishes, and sales of DVD content.
Related to their DVD content - I have a current roommate whom I have known since 1995. This fellow was duped by the then webmaster Gary, into starring in a wrestling video despite the fact Gary SWORE IT WAS FOR HIS PERSONAL ENJOYMENT AND WOULD NEVER APPEAR ON THE SITE IN ANY WAY. He did NOT have my friend sign a release (he wouldn't have signed one.) My friend was, at the time, still in the closet owing to his career with a Fortune 500 company. For this reason, the last thing he wanted was to star in a gay wrestling video engaging in fetish behavior. Well, sure enough, Gary used the video and incorporated it into one of the DVD's which is STILL BEING SOLD on the site. Despite being asked to remove the video, Gary continued to sell it, and make money off my unwitting friend - not caring at all for the risk he was being exposed to if the video had been seen by any of the hundreds of people employed by the corporation for whom he worked. Later on, I was told Gary sold the site to two other guys. (I'm not sure of the accuracy of this.) At that point, my friend once again got in contact with the webmaster and was basically insulted and flatly refused. The obvious thing would be to bring a lawsuit, however, this would create even MORE exposure.
Things like this... along with various other monkey business and the overall aire of smarminess are why so many people have turned away from this site in favor of Meetfighters. The guys running Global are rude, flippant, greedy, and, although they may think they have a real cash cow, their site is badly designed, annoying to use, and the interface is 20 years out of date and very cumbersome. In short, it's a train wreck. The last thing I ever want to see when I log into a decent site like Meetfighters is evidence of their existence. If you abuse your customers, at least have the decency not to pursue them when they try to take refuge in a better site. This is NOT a platform for Globalfight to make excuses or try to justify its bullshit. I, for one, wish they'd stay in their own tacky back yard.
(Frustrating not to be able to insult and then delete someone who calls you out and speaks truth to your bullshit, isn't it? How does it feel to have NO RIGHTS?)
Once again, slander from the dark recesses of the internet with a faceless pic. WHAT video? you are SOoooooo pissed about and wanting to tell everyone about this horrific incident but yet surprisingly NO video URL or name of the video is specified?
Videos were started to pay for the HUGE amounts of bandwidth being used by services REQUESTED by users such as streaming videos and webcam shows. Being in service 23 years alot of services have been requested over the years and continue to be asked for and we provide.
While your on your rampage maybe explain also exactly WHY you were banned from globalfight
I have never been charged to message anyone on this site, and I have messaged a lot of people here, and I have been a member for several years now. I can understand wanting to charge people to view better quality photos and to have access to videos. However, charging people to be able to send a message to another user is just taking it too far in terms of expenses.
You say to stop whining and to spend more time finding a match, well that would be a lot easier if I could message other people on GlobalFight. When I first registered to GlobalFight, I thought it was an amazing site. It has so many people from all over the United States. But the one thing that turned me away from the site was having to pay to be able to message someone.
I would have gladly paid for a membership just to be able to view full sized photos and videos alone. But having to do so to have access to messaging just showed me the site has one too many limitations. What that also shows is greed. I know full well running a site is not free by any means. But messaging in my opinion should not have to be paid for.
sending and receiving two messages a day on GF is free. If you want to relogon again send message to GF webmaster at webmaster at globalfight com along with your logon id and will turn back on. Admin on MF has posted and understands we can be perceived as tyrants but it is all in efforts to keep site running smoothly. People being negative for sake of negativity does nothing but make others start complaining when they were otherwise having a great time. Saying site sucks, laid out bad does nothing to help us better site. Such postings should say "here is WHAT we would like changed" specify specific things not just broad statements like site sucks :)
PS. As far as the 'banning' issue is concerned, I am sure it is very difficult to get to it right in a way that satisfies everyone. Sometimes erring on the side of 'too much' banning can actually be a good thing. For example, and by contrast, my interest/enthusiasm for this site was certainly weakened after the initial 'sockpuppet' incident when having identified someone who had made and operated a fake profile, they were not banned. That has inhibited me from getting more involved in this site or paying to support it. Once again, that might be the approach other members prefer, so you take your choice. I am sure it is a very difficult one to get right for both MF and GF.
I do not see a sockpuppet profile. Can you specify in email what profile your referring? We delete TONS of fake profiles each week dozens never even get approved so one is likely to slip through cracks or perhaps WAS disabled only to be proven to be real by drivers license fax etc. Bring me back up to speed on this incident. I mean, it makes no sense some of these comments... on the one hand were bashed for deleting paid real members for minor infractions but on the other hand we leave non paying troll profiles alone??? Look, its a big site some things fall through the cracks. Send a comment to Gary at webmaster at globalfight com along with your profile and profile you have a problem with and will look into it. Thanks
I think this is all somewhat unfair. I have never had a problem with GF, and have met genuine guys on there. I think it serves a slightly different market in that it is more American and much more orientated towards muscle, and towards pro wrestling, (which happens to be my 'thing') and the whole BG east type scene too. It works well for me, and I can't really see the problem. (Conversely I have met very few guys from here, as *actual* pro wrestling isn't so much the thing here, alas, for whatever reasons). Which is not to say there is any problem with this site either, it is what it is... and I think both can co-exist perfectly well.
First and foremost, this site "Meetfighters" is very well presented and has great features. Congratulations !
The comments I read are all interesting. This site is for worldwide contacts and in time there will be more North American members.
It is a FREE site with a lot of options for every member. I wish that more members would financially support it, even with a small yearly voluntary contribution. This is ONLY my wish.
Thank you and congratulations to the owners and administration!
WRESTLEBC
P.S. I used to like takedownwrestling a lot. Years ago it used to be the very best wrestling/fighting contact site in my opinion. It's developpers "ch0ke" was a great guy.
I am really not sure what to write here because even though I am a paying member of global fight premium, I have heard that they will strip you of premium and give you your money back and ban your account if you mouth off against them.
There are a ton of things wrong with globalfight and honestly, I do not see this changing anytime in the near future. The fact that there are only 2 main wrestling sites (now that gruntsngroans has closed) has helped GF. I think the admin runs a great site here but like he said, GF is 4 times larger, so it's hard to just be on meetfighters and meet all the people you want to meet.
If meetfighters was as large as global, and had the amount of personals that GF has, I would have no problem transferring my business here. The truth of the matter is, meetfighters is primarly a site for UK/Europe fighters/wrestlers and GF caters to the USA fighters/wrestlers.
I honestly do not know why globalfight is more expansive than meetfighters when they both primarily do the same thing and meetfighters has a much better chat room and messaging system.
With all that being said, I get way more matches since I have been premium (in the few months that I have had it) than in the many years that I was just a basic non-paying member.
The reason Global fight is so much bigger is that its been around for nearly 15 years. It's had several relaunches/makeovers but I first started using it in 1998 when it was still vangar.
Yes, it does have many more profiles, but a lot of those are long dead, and I would say it has a lot more time wasters, lurkers, trolls and other types not really interesting in meeting up for a match - I have nearly a 100% success rate of arranging matches on meetfighters, compared with probably 10% on Global.
I stopped my premium membership on there quite some time ago. this site is way better. I think its only a matter of time until it takes the number one spot!
What exactly is a troll? I have to say I have had a 100% rate of meeting wrestlings from globalfight compared to 0% here and other sites. Point is all the wrestling sites are what the people make of it.. I mean really if you dont like global that is fine, dont use it, but why bash the site??
A troll is a inferior form of a human being that hides in it's mother's basement intentionally stating obnoxious and insulting remarks to stir up an emotional and hateful response from superior human beings :)
To be fair, the existence of time wasters & trolls on Global fight is not a fault of the site itself. They exist everywhere on the internet, especially where there are free chatrooms and forums. It's a shame that there isn't a better system of weeding them out.
On here, the member recommendations & past opponents features go a long way to finding genuine opponents with similar tastes.
Actually, there is quite a bit that a site can do to limit and discourage trolling. It is not possible to completely eliminate trolls, but there are some subtle steps one can take to make the site less attractive for them, hoping that they will just move on to greener pastures.
GlobalFight has something around 11,000 members. Over half of that is from the USA. This site has 6500 members now, and 2000 from the USA.
What this comes down to is that Global has about three times more people from the USA, but less than 2x as many globally. It figures, they've been around for a long time, and they bought out Headlock wrestling at one point. This site's been around for four years only.
My take is that if every member here invited the good people they knew, we would have a chance. Maybe you did that already, if not, well, never too late. :)
Whenever I get chatting to a guy who is interested in wrestling I always point him to MF, cos I know they will find this site useful. This site has a community feel to it, it's not just a money-sucking fetish engine like GF! I know that in the long run that will count for a lot.
well, I don't know, Global may seem bad at times, but I have only meet one person so far that would like to knee me and be kneed as well, and that was from Globalfight. I'm not saying it's better, but considering that I have meet anyone yet from here.........well I would say that least the basic membership is somewhat fair (cough jk cough)
I do have a profil on Globalf. I started it before I knew Allfighters existed. But I never liked Globalf. And since my profile on Allfighters I don't use it anymore. The website is "messy" and not inviting. And when I got a "Wanna wrestle?" notice from someone but I can't respond with a message unless I pay...I feel tricked. Thumbs-up for Meetfighters.
In defense of the Global guys (I sort of empathize with them, having run a similar site for years)... sometimes members can be extremely abusive without realizing it. Not I'm not saying that you were – I'm sure you faced adversity with the calm of a zen master. On the other hand, I have read complaints (sometimes justified, sometimes, not so much) from members of this site that were worded in a way I would not address my dog or an underling – let alone a guy I never paid a penny, and who was providing me with a free service. It's easy to start losing your goodwill if that happens to you too often.
I guess what I'm saying is that they must have, in their 1.5 decades, faced a fair number of unfairly abusive, entitled rants, and now find it easier to just ban anyone who complains. I'm not even saying it's the right thing to do, just that I sort of understand where they are coming from.
To put it in perspective: the support forum here handles about 20 to 40 requests a month. Not too much, really. But if only 2 in 10 guys is in angry entitled thrash mode, that's about 1 aggravation per week to deal with. Believe me, it builds up over time. This is why I am always try to get more people involved with support, to lessen the impact on individual supporters.
Incidentally, if anyone reading this wants to help the site, become a supporter today. Apply with management!
Bro I couldn't have committed the first abuse I was charged with because I had never used the chat room. They monitor the chatroom so they must have known this. What I said in my reply to being banned was that the accusation was silly because it was impossble and they could easily verify this. I'd be flabbergasted if any reasonable perons could take that as amounting to any kind of abuse! Seriously good luck with this... darren rix
However Global charges a handsome fees for members to be able to use it in any kind of efficient way - to actually meet genuine fighters and wrestlers. It's standard of service OUGHT therefore to be higher.
I can well understand guys like yourselves getting "irked" when all you seem to get is complaints and negative "carping" about things users find annoying, etc. I used to give up my free time editing a newsmagazine for a society many years ago and I felt the same when I was on the receiving end of carping criticism.
However I don't think Global has that excuse: It's a profit generating machine - and it has some quite serious flaws inspite and because of this.
Absobloodylutely... I was a paid up member of that organisation and was then banned twice once for abusing someone in the chat room - when in fact I had NEVER even used the chatroom! When I questioned this I was then banned a second time for abusing the moderator!
True. I just find it going a bit too far limiting so much to non-premium members. GlobalFight is the only website I have ever heard of that charges for messaging and forum posting. Meetfighters beats their site by a longshot in my opinion. I have met up with one guy here and can't find anyone else interested in meeting up. So ive tried expanding my resources to GlobalFight. It was a total letdown when my photo was approved and my message was deniee because I wasn't a premium member.
In my opinion, they are two totally different sort of sites. But also not sure it is productive to slam one on here ... kind of a political thing. But people are always welcome to their opinions. I have met fine men from both sites. On the whole, MF is well thought out and easy to use. But understand on Global you aren't "forced" to pay, it just opens more portions of the site to you if you do. Some would say, it is what it is.
I think Admin is being very gracious here. Global is pretty horrendous. I have a profile there but I can't remember the last time I bothered to log in. The site itself is a mess, not designed so much as thrown together, and it is fully angled towards sex and fetish. MF might be the new kid on the block but it has quality.
My personal opinion is that Global is providing a service to a slightly different market than we do. Perhaps the biggest difference is that their subscription includes access to some wrestling porn. The personals service they provide differs from ours in many ways, which lends to a different user group. I'm fairly certain if they had a forum, it would have a "MeetFighters is terrible!" thread in it simply because globalfight members expect a service different from ours.
In any case, they have been around 4 times longer than our humble site.
Very good of you to be so humble, but as a mere "consumer" I will speak more candidly. Globalfight is a "control freak" money making machine. It deals with greviances between members very badly because all it cares about is having paying punters. It wouldn't countenance a "recc" system because it would worry that paying timewasters and dangerous wrestlers might not keep on stumping up the cash.
And as for the suggestion that Global would have a thread entitled how terrible MF is. That's laughable. They don't like freedom of expression or anything that enables members not to supply them with cash all the time. In the chatroom they try and stop you revealing personal email addresses because it might stop them raking in more of your cash. The website is badly designed and you have no way of knowing who is good and who is bad.
I've met a couple of genuine guys off Global after years of basic membership. I've met countless genuine, good guys since someone on Global told me about the existence of Allfighters as it then was.
The retards expect for you to buy a premium membership just to send messages or post on their forums. It's not even guaranteed that you'll find anyone to meet up with for a match. What a waste of money. This is my advice to anyone who hasn't joined their website. Don't waste your money!
Admin
02/8/2016 10:56I am closing this forum thread now because it is not contributing anything to meeting fighters. I was going to write a short comment about my thoughts and ask everyone to just move on, but instead here's a message from the original founder of MeetFighters:
SileX (207 )
29/7/2016 09:46I think Mr Globalfight has never heard about the Streisand effect.
In his desperately poor effort to clear his abysmal site's name, he has once again propelled "Globalfight is terrible" to the top of the forum pile. :D
HMB (0)
02/8/2016 10:11(em resposta à...)
Hahaha... so true. It's like screaming "STOP MAKING A SCENE" in the middle of a crowded restaurant. Classic.
globalfight (0)
01/8/2016 16:03(em resposta à...)
Silence is not good when one is attacked by a minority of idiots.
GutPuncher89 (1 )
02/8/2016 00:35(em resposta à...)
We're idiots because we don't like the way you run your site? Thanks for showing us your inner 12 year old.
MCRLON30UK (53)
30/7/2016 18:07(em resposta à...)
tl;dr - That site's layout and performance is something out of the 90s. It makes MySpace look well designed. It's 2016 now.
At least one person needs to be a paying premium member for two people to exchange messages to arrange a wrestle.
Administration of that site has been ambiguous, contradictory & poor with profiles + the chat room for years that it's been an established reputation for some time.
And most importantly, the site is really just an elaborate advertisement banner for the parent domain's gay porn video sales.
globalfight (0)
01/8/2016 16:13(em resposta à...)
Once again someone posting lies who either has never used site or been banned for being a jackass and now seeking to attack us from outside sources.
EVERYONE has two free emails a day.
And the site design intentionally uses basic HTML on the front end so ALL users can access as with so many fragmented programs being used these days if one gets glitched such as adobe acrobat or any of the other auto update programs MANY TIMES they cause an error till the programers get the bugs worked out so by using a simple HTML background our users do not experience those glitches.
Also, to think we do not keep up is ridiculous all you have to do is enter our members area to see 40,000 video shows and one million images via the most advanced display system in the world to see otherwise. We were attending internext conventions and hashing out new html website systems before many of MF or GF users were even BORN so give me a break about knowing how to build a website :)
GutPuncher89 (1 )
02/8/2016 00:37(em resposta à...)
2 free emails a day is still stupid. Messaging should be unlimited. If not unlimited I should still be able to hold a full conversation with someone. Two messages a day is absolutely retarded.
MCRLON30UK (53)
01/8/2016 16:20(em resposta à...)
I don't know how to build a house, but when I see one collapsing I can tell it wasn't done well either.
Two free emails per day. What a fully realised feature.
"Most advanced picture system in the world." I see someone hasn't heard of Google.
globalfight (0)
01/8/2016 16:39(em resposta à...)
google? a billion dollar business ? yea, that might be a little reason they have free email. They also ban folks in an instant just like every other big company for posting snide remarks about their service without going through customer support. By the way we have live phone support has for years
MCRLON30UK (53)
01/8/2016 16:49(em resposta à...)
Please do not make assertions about persons you do not know.
Please don't make ridiculous claims about your own website that are patently untrue or incorrect.
First it was "we have the most advanced feature in the world" and then it was "it's not fair to compare us to a billion dollar company". Please cease with your mental gymnastics.
You should just quit while you're behind. Before you just looked bad, but now after a string of these ridiculous comments, you look worse.
Many of your (former) users have ceased using your portal because it's been awful for quite some time. Deal with it by trying to improve your service, instead of being the one making snide comments on the internet and implying that anyone who criticises you or your website has some sort of axe to grind, when really we're just pointing out the bridge is falling down and you're wearing a blindfold.
HMB (0)
02/8/2016 10:09(em resposta à...)
LOL, you have to love watching Global come over here and pitch tantrums because he can't prevent people from speaking the truth about the BS that goes on over there. Like a self-entitled diva, he keeps showing up here, raging against anyone who dares to comment on the unsavory practices of GlobalFight. Honestly, the fact that he's even being allowed to MENTION his site here is proof that the operators of Meetfighters are above the sort of arbitrary and childish behavior that has chased so many away from his site. (And believe me, a LOT more people have left that site because they became fed up with the shady practices than have been banned. I darn sure wasn't banned - I just got tired of paying and paying for the profiles and messaging - which is done better here for FREE.) Meet fighters is the site we all wished we had when we were basically forced to put up with Global's shenanigans (and pay his price) because he was the only game in town. Now that Meetfighters is here, the only reason anyone would still be using Global is out of inertia. Anyone looking at the number of profiles can see that there's a migration occurring, and it's definitely NOT in the direction of Globalfight.
Global needs to drop its bait-and-switch pretenses of being a site interested in providing a platform for the wrestling community, and come out of the closet as the PORN SITE it really is. Global is never going to improve its service, because that is NOT its goal: It's a porn site, and it's going to keep milking that cash cow. Wrestlers posting profiles are just the unrewarded and unappreciated bait they use to lure guys with a wrestling interest to their site so they can market the porn.
Vpower (17 )
28/7/2016 20:07I just like how both posts about Globalfights were from 3+ years ago and no new posts until somebody decided to necro it....
hephaestion2014 (46)
27/7/2016 17:56Hey, let's not waste time, energy and bandwith talking down another site, but let's talk up one that we do have and use.
If you don't like a service and its terms, conditions and behaviour, there are always alternative services ... don't like one site, use another and forget it.
I like -this- site, Meetfighters. I like the Admin here, never met them, but there's a streak of humour in their messages and fairness that I like. Passion too.
So let's not slag off an alternative site (Don't put Admin in an awkward position- unless it's on a mat or wrestling ring) - Enjoy what you have and like, ignore and don't use and dont bitch about what you don't - and just wrestle.
HMB (0)
27/7/2016 20:48(em resposta à...)
Hephaestion, I didn't begin this dialogue. Look at "globalfight"'s comments. My comments were a response to his audacity in using THIS site to basically promote HIS site. If I have an honest response to that, and can truthfully relate pertinent facts related to his comments, I don't feel like I'm the one who should be squelched. The drastically better administration and layout of this site are why I'm here. And to be clear, I am NOT, in any way, over at Globalfight using the site, making negative comments or anything else. I would never have uttered a word about Globalfight if he had not come here and spouted a pack of untruths in order to promote his site. Come now... you can't seriously tell me you approve of his using this site to promote his own site and argue its merits, can you? Are you sure I'm the one whose comments you object to? Take a closer look at the timelines here and who said what in what order.
globalfight (0)
01/8/2016 16:18(em resposta à...)
Sorry HMB, I am not USING it I am RESPONDING to some idiots posting slanderous lies about our site (the ones who have been banned for being pricks to other members in chat) and one MUST respond or others might start thinking the lies to be true if an alternate point is not explained. I would much rather the admin just remove these moronic statements and threads but if not they must be countered.
GutPuncher89 (1 )
02/8/2016 00:40(em resposta à...)
What proof do YOU have that those of us talking about our dislikes with your site were banned?
hephaestion2014 (46)
27/7/2016 21:12(em resposta à...)
Wasn't aimed at just you hence why my reply wasn't in response to yours. More than just one person and thread in this area of discussion.
I do think there are parts of "globalfights" defence where it feels more like promotion. But hey ... that's not my call to make, I'm just a user of the site.
I'm not saying you shouldn't say these things or be squelched. Air grievances, moan and respond all you like ... but sometimes oftentimes getting angry about things does nothing but make the person who chooses to be angry stay angry and waste a lot of energy.
So what's the best feature of meetfighters for you? For me it's the past opponents and recommendations so you can feel a bit safer and be a bit better informed when entering into a match. I guess the abuse and negative options too as it can prevent people wasting others time, or if they do something dangerous.
munichsubfight (177)
28/7/2016 00:57(em resposta à...)
@hepaestion2014: What´s the best feature of meetfighters?
For me it´s the many flags you can set on your profile and look out for on other profiles, especially "Have access to mats".
And that´s just one of the unique selling points that make meetfighters excel every other site I´ve come to know.
globalfight (0)
24/7/2016 16:51Let me point out a few things to set the record straight. First off, many of the bashings towards globalfight come from people who were banned for GOOD REASON and meetfighters has and will in long run ban many of them for same reasons as they are disruptive to any site they use. They are just bad apples.
As for being money hungry the first three years globalfight started we were FREE but as meetfighters has learned the internet is not free, we and them have to pay HUGE amounts of bandwidth for every 100 people using the site. As usage increases you have to pay MONEY to internet providers BUY more equipment etc and thus membership prices go up the more people use it. That is dictated by powers outside our control.
We too provide TWO FREE contacts each day as meetfighters do. This is fair but to think EVERYTHING should be free is not realistic. Even MF charges a nominal fee the more you want to contact people in a day. Keep in mind GF has tons of porn shows and video shows in a multimedia area which is part of the membership and this is NOT something we wanted but rather things members have ASKED for over the years which we provided and which also increased bandwidth usage on the site. Again, we each provide something to the community different flavors. We are both nearly identical in terms of operational features, what sets us apart is membership interest and location.
As far as bad layout... well again that comes down to different type of people using the site because we have laid out the site AS PEOPLE HAVE ASKED it to be laid out. We respond to membership requests and comments to make the site easier just as MF does. I mean hell, you want to go into every restaurant have the SAME look and feel and taste in each one? makes no sense. Also keep in mind GF has a FULL TIME manned PHONE line for customer support... you wont find that with hardly ANY site on the net except the multi-million dollar sites so to bash for no customer service just makes no sense at all. True, we cannot make everyone happy all the time neither can MF or any other site but try bashing or saying anything out of line on ebay, flickr etc and see how quick you will get banned by them.
Admin, I would like to thank you for the kind comments you posted trying to point out some of the counter points to a few of their comments . Per your comment about if we had a thread section yes we do have a forum and if someone did post a Why We Hate Meetfighters we would not allow it. Not because were censoring free speech but because it brings BOTH our sites down, does NOT provide any real benefit or growth (if someone has a beef about a site they should contact the admin with suggestions) and fosters more negativity then good will. You can go into the happiest place on earth where everyone is having a great time and find SOMETHING to start complaining about and other people around you will start looking for the bad instead of the good to bitch about as well.
If you have a suggestion for GF then send it to the admins and it will be considered, but dont expect every site on the internet to make your changes... keep in mind many other folks are wanting changes that might be contrary to your request. Like MF we respond to the majority. MF and GF will never be identical that would just be pointless and ridiculous so stop bitching about one being laid out better than the other, if they were identical you would be bitching about THAT :) Now stop whining and spend that time finding a match.
HMB (0)
27/7/2016 04:15(em resposta à...)
I am frankly shocked and a little outraged that "Globalfight" either as a website, or an individual representing such, has the gall to come to Meetfighters and attempt to defend its many outrageous practices. Here is truth: Despite their claims Globalfight does disrupt and prevent messaging between non-paid members. To my knowledge, and in my experience, no message between non-paying members goes through. Aside from that, there is the fact that Globalfight has experienced a greed propelled "mission creep", such that it attempts now to be a source of streaming porn, various other fetishes, and sales of DVD content.
Related to their DVD content - I have a current roommate whom I have known since 1995. This fellow was duped by the then webmaster Gary, into starring in a wrestling video despite the fact Gary SWORE IT WAS FOR HIS PERSONAL ENJOYMENT AND WOULD NEVER APPEAR ON THE SITE IN ANY WAY. He did NOT have my friend sign a release (he wouldn't have signed one.) My friend was, at the time, still in the closet owing to his career with a Fortune 500 company. For this reason, the last thing he wanted was to star in a gay wrestling video engaging in fetish behavior. Well, sure enough, Gary used the video and incorporated it into one of the DVD's which is STILL BEING SOLD on the site. Despite being asked to remove the video, Gary continued to sell it, and make money off my unwitting friend - not caring at all for the risk he was being exposed to if the video had been seen by any of the hundreds of people employed by the corporation for whom he worked. Later on, I was told Gary sold the site to two other guys. (I'm not sure of the accuracy of this.) At that point, my friend once again got in contact with the webmaster and was basically insulted and flatly refused. The obvious thing would be to bring a lawsuit, however, this would create even MORE exposure.
Things like this... along with various other monkey business and the overall aire of smarminess are why so many people have turned away from this site in favor of Meetfighters. The guys running Global are rude, flippant, greedy, and, although they may think they have a real cash cow, their site is badly designed, annoying to use, and the interface is 20 years out of date and very cumbersome. In short, it's a train wreck. The last thing I ever want to see when I log into a decent site like Meetfighters is evidence of their existence. If you abuse your customers, at least have the decency not to pursue them when they try to take refuge in a better site. This is NOT a platform for Globalfight to make excuses or try to justify its bullshit. I, for one, wish they'd stay in their own tacky back yard.
(Frustrating not to be able to insult and then delete someone who calls you out and speaks truth to your bullshit, isn't it? How does it feel to have NO RIGHTS?)
globalfight (0)
01/8/2016 16:30(em resposta à...)
Once again, slander from the dark recesses of the internet with a faceless pic. WHAT video? you are SOoooooo pissed about and wanting to tell everyone about this horrific incident but yet surprisingly NO video URL or name of the video is specified?
Videos were started to pay for the HUGE amounts of bandwidth being used by services REQUESTED by users such as streaming videos and webcam shows. Being in service 23 years alot of services have been requested over the years and continue to be asked for and we provide.
While your on your rampage maybe explain also exactly WHY you were banned from globalfight
GutPuncher89 (1 )
24/7/2016 17:35(em resposta à...)
I have never been charged to message anyone on this site, and I have messaged a lot of people here, and I have been a member for several years now. I can understand wanting to charge people to view better quality photos and to have access to videos. However, charging people to be able to send a message to another user is just taking it too far in terms of expenses.
You say to stop whining and to spend more time finding a match, well that would be a lot easier if I could message other people on GlobalFight. When I first registered to GlobalFight, I thought it was an amazing site. It has so many people from all over the United States. But the one thing that turned me away from the site was having to pay to be able to message someone.
I would have gladly paid for a membership just to be able to view full sized photos and videos alone. But having to do so to have access to messaging just showed me the site has one too many limitations. What that also shows is greed. I know full well running a site is not free by any means. But messaging in my opinion should not have to be paid for.
globalfight (0)
24/7/2016 17:43(em resposta à...)
sending and receiving two messages a day on GF is free. If you want to relogon again send message to GF webmaster at webmaster at globalfight com along with your logon id and will turn back on. Admin on MF has posted and understands we can be perceived as tyrants but it is all in efforts to keep site running smoothly. People being negative for sake of negativity does nothing but make others start complaining when they were otherwise having a great time. Saying site sucks, laid out bad does nothing to help us better site. Such postings should say "here is WHAT we would like changed" specify specific things not just broad statements like site sucks :)
thetallwrestler (42)
29/12/2012 00:07PS. As far as the 'banning' issue is concerned, I am sure it is very difficult to get to it right in a way that satisfies everyone. Sometimes erring on the side of 'too much' banning can actually be a good thing. For example, and by contrast, my interest/enthusiasm for this site was certainly weakened after the initial 'sockpuppet' incident when having identified someone who had made and operated a fake profile, they were not banned. That has inhibited me from getting more involved in this site or paying to support it. Once again, that might be the approach other members prefer, so you take your choice. I am sure it is a very difficult one to get right for both MF and GF.
globalfight (0)
24/7/2016 17:50(em resposta à...)
I do not see a sockpuppet profile. Can you specify in email what profile your referring? We delete TONS of fake profiles each week dozens never even get approved so one is likely to slip through cracks or perhaps WAS disabled only to be proven to be real by drivers license fax etc. Bring me back up to speed on this incident. I mean, it makes no sense some of these comments... on the one hand were bashed for deleting paid real members for minor infractions but on the other hand we leave non paying troll profiles alone??? Look, its a big site some things fall through the cracks. Send a comment to Gary at webmaster at globalfight com along with your profile and profile you have a problem with and will look into it. Thanks
thetallwrestler (42)
28/12/2012 23:52I think this is all somewhat unfair. I have never had a problem with GF, and have met genuine guys on there. I think it serves a slightly different market in that it is more American and much more orientated towards muscle, and towards pro wrestling, (which happens to be my 'thing') and the whole BG east type scene too. It works well for me, and I can't really see the problem. (Conversely I have met very few guys from here, as *actual* pro wrestling isn't so much the thing here, alas, for whatever reasons). Which is not to say there is any problem with this site either, it is what it is... and I think both can co-exist perfectly well.
WRESTLEBC (10)
06/12/2012 14:04First and foremost, this site "Meetfighters" is very well presented and has great features. Congratulations !
The comments I read are all interesting. This site is for worldwide contacts and in time there will be more North American members.
It is a FREE site with a lot of options for every member. I wish that more members would financially support it, even with a small yearly voluntary contribution. This is ONLY my wish.
Thank you and congratulations to the owners and administration!
WRESTLEBC
P.S. I used to like takedownwrestling a lot. Years ago it used to be the very best wrestling/fighting contact site in my opinion. It's developpers "ch0ke" was a great guy.
chameleon (33 )
24/11/2012 15:17I am really not sure what to write here because even though I am a paying member of global fight premium, I have heard that they will strip you of premium and give you your money back and ban your account if you mouth off against them.
There are a ton of things wrong with globalfight and honestly, I do not see this changing anytime in the near future. The fact that there are only 2 main wrestling sites (now that gruntsngroans has closed) has helped GF. I think the admin runs a great site here but like he said, GF is 4 times larger, so it's hard to just be on meetfighters and meet all the people you want to meet.
If meetfighters was as large as global, and had the amount of personals that GF has, I would have no problem transferring my business here. The truth of the matter is, meetfighters is primarly a site for UK/Europe fighters/wrestlers and GF caters to the USA fighters/wrestlers.
I honestly do not know why globalfight is more expansive than meetfighters when they both primarily do the same thing and meetfighters has a much better chat room and messaging system.
With all that being said, I get way more matches since I have been premium (in the few months that I have had it) than in the many years that I was just a basic non-paying member.
london sub (40 )
27/11/2012 13:53(em resposta à...)
The reason Global fight is so much bigger is that its been around for nearly 15 years. It's had several relaunches/makeovers but I first started using it in 1998 when it was still vangar.
Yes, it does have many more profiles, but a lot of those are long dead, and I would say it has a lot more time wasters, lurkers, trolls and other types not really interesting in meeting up for a match - I have nearly a 100% success rate of arranging matches on meetfighters, compared with probably 10% on Global.
I stopped my premium membership on there quite some time ago. this site is way better. I think its only a matter of time until it takes the number one spot!
job4heel (7)
28/11/2012 04:57(em resposta à...)
What exactly is a troll? I have to say I have had a 100% rate of meeting wrestlings from globalfight compared to 0% here and other sites. Point is all the wrestling sites are what the people make of it.. I mean really if you dont like global that is fine, dont use it, but why bash the site??
Admin
28/11/2012 14:36(em resposta à...)
That's a good point, and matches what I was trying to say in my initial response.
GutPuncher89 (1 )
28/11/2012 06:36(em resposta à...)
A troll is a inferior form of a human being that hides in it's mother's basement intentionally stating obnoxious and insulting remarks to stir up an emotional and hateful response from superior human beings :)
london sub (40 )
28/11/2012 09:39(em resposta à...)
Great description :-)
To be fair, the existence of time wasters & trolls on Global fight is not a fault of the site itself. They exist everywhere on the internet, especially where there are free chatrooms and forums. It's a shame that there isn't a better system of weeding them out.
On here, the member recommendations & past opponents features go a long way to finding genuine opponents with similar tastes.
Admin
28/11/2012 14:09(em resposta à...)
Actually, there is quite a bit that a site can do to limit and discourage trolling. It is not possible to completely eliminate trolls, but there are some subtle steps one can take to make the site less attractive for them, hoping that they will just move on to greener pastures.
Admin
24/11/2012 22:13(em resposta à...)
GlobalFight has something around 11,000 members. Over half of that is from the USA. This site has 6500 members now, and 2000 from the USA.
What this comes down to is that Global has about three times more people from the USA, but less than 2x as many globally. It figures, they've been around for a long time, and they bought out Headlock wrestling at one point. This site's been around for four years only.
My take is that if every member here invited the good people they knew, we would have a chance. Maybe you did that already, if not, well, never too late. :)
Sturdy (31)
29/11/2012 21:10(em resposta à...)
Size isn't everything!
Whenever I get chatting to a guy who is interested in wrestling I always point him to MF, cos I know they will find this site useful. This site has a community feel to it, it's not just a money-sucking fetish engine like GF! I know that in the long run that will count for a lot.
fhall2 (0)
08/11/2012 21:56well, I don't know, Global may seem bad at times, but I have only meet one person so far that would like to knee me and be kneed as well, and that was from Globalfight. I'm not saying it's better, but considering that I have meet anyone yet from here.........well I would say that least the basic membership is somewhat fair (cough jk cough)
Kundar (21)
06/11/2012 06:48I do have a profil on Globalf. I started it before I knew Allfighters existed. But I never liked Globalf. And since my profile on Allfighters I don't use it anymore. The website is "messy" and not inviting. And when I got a "Wanna wrestle?" notice from someone but I can't respond with a message unless I pay...I feel tricked. Thumbs-up for Meetfighters.
Admin
03/11/2012 22:26In defense of the Global guys (I sort of empathize with them, having run a similar site for years)... sometimes members can be extremely abusive without realizing it. Not I'm not saying that you were – I'm sure you faced adversity with the calm of a zen master. On the other hand, I have read complaints (sometimes justified, sometimes, not so much) from members of this site that were worded in a way I would not address my dog or an underling – let alone a guy I never paid a penny, and who was providing me with a free service. It's easy to start losing your goodwill if that happens to you too often.
I guess what I'm saying is that they must have, in their 1.5 decades, faced a fair number of unfairly abusive, entitled rants, and now find it easier to just ban anyone who complains. I'm not even saying it's the right thing to do, just that I sort of understand where they are coming from.
To put it in perspective: the support forum here handles about 20 to 40 requests a month. Not too much, really. But if only 2 in 10 guys is in angry entitled thrash mode, that's about 1 aggravation per week to deal with. Believe me, it builds up over time. This is why I am always try to get more people involved with support, to lessen the impact on individual supporters.
Incidentally, if anyone reading this wants to help the site, become a supporter today. Apply with management!
the natureboy (16)
06/11/2012 05:14(em resposta à...)
Bro I couldn't have committed the first abuse I was charged with because I had never used the chat room. They monitor the chatroom so they must have known this. What I said in my reply to being banned was that the accusation was silly because it was impossble and they could easily verify this. I'd be flabbergasted if any reasonable perons could take that as amounting to any kind of abuse! Seriously good luck with this... darren rix
Tallblondwrestler (79)
05/11/2012 20:38(em resposta à...)
Indeed. That is understandable.
However Global charges a handsome fees for members to be able to use it in any kind of efficient way - to actually meet genuine fighters and wrestlers. It's standard of service OUGHT therefore to be higher.
I can well understand guys like yourselves getting "irked" when all you seem to get is complaints and negative "carping" about things users find annoying, etc. I used to give up my free time editing a newsmagazine for a society many years ago and I felt the same when I was on the receiving end of carping criticism.
However I don't think Global has that excuse: It's a profit generating machine - and it has some quite serious flaws inspite and because of this.
the natureboy (16)
01/11/2012 06:40Absobloodylutely... I was a paid up member of that organisation and was then banned twice once for abusing someone in the chat room - when in fact I had NEVER even used the chatroom! When I questioned this I was then banned a second time for abusing the moderator!
GutPuncher89 (1 )
30/10/2012 17:13True. I just find it going a bit too far limiting so much to non-premium members. GlobalFight is the only website I have ever heard of that charges for messaging and forum posting. Meetfighters beats their site by a longshot in my opinion. I have met up with one guy here and can't find anyone else interested in meeting up. So ive tried expanding my resources to GlobalFight. It was a total letdown when my photo was approved and my message was deniee because I wasn't a premium member.
fhall2 (0)
08/11/2012 21:59(em resposta à...)
well, i would like to meet up with you :)
Guysmiley (41 )
30/10/2012 15:49In my opinion, they are two totally different sort of sites. But also not sure it is productive to slam one on here ... kind of a political thing. But people are always welcome to their opinions. I have met fine men from both sites. On the whole, MF is well thought out and easy to use. But understand on Global you aren't "forced" to pay, it just opens more portions of the site to you if you do. Some would say, it is what it is.
Sturdy (31)
30/10/2012 08:54I think Admin is being very gracious here. Global is pretty horrendous. I have a profile there but I can't remember the last time I bothered to log in. The site itself is a mess, not designed so much as thrown together, and it is fully angled towards sex and fetish. MF might be the new kid on the block but it has quality.
Admin
30/10/2012 08:14My personal opinion is that Global is providing a service to a slightly different market than we do. Perhaps the biggest difference is that their subscription includes access to some wrestling porn. The personals service they provide differs from ours in many ways, which lends to a different user group. I'm fairly certain if they had a forum, it would have a "MeetFighters is terrible!" thread in it simply because globalfight members expect a service different from ours.
In any case, they have been around 4 times longer than our humble site.
Tallblondwrestler (79)
30/10/2012 21:44(em resposta à...)
Very good of you to be so humble, but as a mere "consumer" I will speak more candidly. Globalfight is a "control freak" money making machine. It deals with greviances between members very badly because all it cares about is having paying punters. It wouldn't countenance a "recc" system because it would worry that paying timewasters and dangerous wrestlers might not keep on stumping up the cash.
And as for the suggestion that Global would have a thread entitled how terrible MF is. That's laughable. They don't like freedom of expression or anything that enables members not to supply them with cash all the time. In the chatroom they try and stop you revealing personal email addresses because it might stop them raking in more of your cash. The website is badly designed and you have no way of knowing who is good and who is bad.
I've met a couple of genuine guys off Global after years of basic membership. I've met countless genuine, good guys since someone on Global told me about the existence of Allfighters as it then was.
Never looked back!
GutPuncher89 (1 )
30/10/2012 05:35The retards expect for you to buy a premium membership just to send messages or post on their forums. It's not even guaranteed that you'll find anyone to meet up with for a match. What a waste of money. This is my advice to anyone who hasn't joined their website. Don't waste your money!